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El Bulli, Aspen Kitchens & the Wild Side of Fine Dining with Barclay Dodge and Heather Kunzer

Chef's PSA ep. 152

Can you preserve a season in a spoon?
Chef Barclay Dodge has spent years trying—and sometimes succeeding. In this week’s Chef’s PSA, I sit down with Barclay and Heather Kunzer to talk about wild ingredients, fermentation technique, and the mentorship that makes Michelin stars possible.

Key Takeaways:

  • Fermentation is control—not chaos. It’s one of the last true crafts in the kitchen.

  • You can’t fake respect for ingredients. Mushrooms will betray you if you don’t treat them right.

  • A small kitchen is no excuse for poor systems.

  • Cooking venison heart is about confidence and timing, not just bravery.

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